Mark Seif Blog

This will be a quick blog today, as I have a very packed schedule with quite a few meetings. I think it’s important though, to again, clear up some confusion. Specifically, I want to address two points that have legitimately been raised. One, why haven’t I severed all ties with Absolute Poker? Two, why do I feel Todd Witteles has acted improperly? This second question, I have to be brief about for reasons that will be obvious down the road. Also, I want to make a brief point about the hand histories from my February 15, 2006 session that has been called into question.

I have not severed all ties with AP, despite numerous requests for me to do so, for one main reason. The investigation is not complete. There is still a tremendous amount of information to be learned about what happened. Such as, how it happened, when did it start, how long did it last, who was involved, who knew about it, and how pervasive was it? As I write this, there are third party independent auditors travelling to AP’s world-wide offices looking into the Company’s practices, procedures, databases and systems. They are accumulating tons of data about every aspect of AP’s operation. Doesn’t it seem reasonable to wait until the investigation is complete before I make this decision?

Would it not be hypocritical of me to ask the public to wait until all the evidence is in regarding my own involvement before forming an opinion, but at the same time, quickly conclude that AP is guilty of such egregious conduct that I must sever all ties with the Company before the investigation is complete? Wouldn’t I be doing the same thing that some are doing to me? That is, unfairly jumping to conclusions without all the facts?

For clarity’s sake, I will go on the record again regarding my involvement. I never engaged in this malfeasance in any way, shape or form, nor did I know about it, nor did I benefit from it in anyway. Yet some people SWEAR I was in on it. They are 100% wrong! The evidence and the truth will eventually come out. But, it takes time.

Just look at a fairly recent and very similar matter in the news the Duke Lacrosse rape scandal. Everyone thought they were guilty because charges were leveled against them. It turns out they were not guilty. It took many many months before there was even the slightest hint that they might be telling the truth, that they didn’t do it.

Second point. Witteles has made several false claims and he continues to do so. I’ll talk a little about this and after that, I’m pretty much going to refrain from talking about him. He clearly enjoys the spotlight much more than I do and he has opportunistically used this situation to try to elevate his standing in poker. In the end, when all the evidence comes out, I think, people will have a very different view of him and his role in this matter.

He says I owe him an apology because AP has admitted there has been a security breach; therefore he must not have been lying or exaggerating. Does that make any sense at all? What about the statements he made about me personally? What about the statements he made about the February 15, 2006 session?

I believe very strongly that he has knowingly and intentionally or with reckless disregard for the truth (which are not elements of the offense by the way) made at least one statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. That’s all I can say about it for now.

One last thing, my hand histories from the Feb 16, 2006 session. I have been told that it is likely that Absolute Poker does have those hand histories along with all other real money hands ever played on the site. They apparently are on tape and will be retrievable. I hope this is true. I really really hope so. I think the person who told me they don’t have them may have been mistaken. I really don’t know at this point. I’m just telling you what I have been told by two different sources, obviously in direct conflict with one another.

When I agreed to show my hole cards I had never requested them from AP at that point and was shocked, as everyone else was, to learn they weren’t available. That is the truth! That’s why I am cautiously optimistic that the earlier statement that they are not available, may be incorrect.

One last point about these HHs. I have agreed to expose my hole cards because of 15-20 minute session, if I recall correctly, where my opponent (through his “friend”) wonders if I could see hole cards because I ran so hot/made all the right plays. Imagine how many times that happens every single day in poker. Tens of thousands? I think that would be conservative. So every time a site’s pro has that kind of session, we should all demand to see his hole cards right? I know there is a difference here in that impropriety has taken place at AP, and for that reason, I have agreed to turn up my hole cards.

I am just trying to illustrate a point. My opponent and his friend’s claim will be proven false when and if the HHs are retrieved. I am certain of that because I know I did nothing wrong. But just think for a moment, if you were me how you would feel about such a serious accusation because you ran hot for 15-20 minutes?

– Mark A. Seif

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I wanted to clear up some issues regarding my recent interview on RawVegas.tv.

I was quite surprised when I saw the interview because it was presented to the viewers as if I came in to present AP’s side of the story. I never knew that nor did I agree to that. Nor did AP. I came in representing myself and speaking only on my behalf. I’ll clear this up with the folks at RawVegas.tv. I’m sure it was unintentional. Probably a minor thing to them. Afterall, not EVERYONE is forced live and breathe this thing non-stop 24/7.

Based on some of the posts I’ve read, I think there is a substantial amount of confusion regarding my statement about Stars and Full Tilt. This is either due to me failing to be clear and/or poor editing. I don’t remember.

I stated that this type of thing could happen at Stars or Tilt, because it can. Let me be clear. I think, actually, I KNOW, that Stars and Tilt are run by very ethical, highly reputable people. I have tremendous respect for the management at both sites. I play on both sites.

Having said that, its virtually impossible to ensure, in a company that has hundreds if not thousands of previous and existing employees, consultants, programmers etc. and dozens and dozens of high level managers both past and present, that there will NEVER ever be a security breach. It’s just impossible to ensure against it. The liklihood is very low and there are countless measures to prevent such a breach. But it’s naive to say that it could never happen.

So, if there is a breach, does that make the whole company bad? Perhaps. I’m not sure of the answer at this point.

Could the Company rehabilitate itself though? What if it tossed out the offenders, made reparations, and tried to shore up security to the best of its abilities? I’m not suggesting anything here. I’m just asking myself these questions at the moment and wanted to clear up this misunderstanding.

– Mark Seif

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Over the past 24-48 hours, I have talked to many friends and colleagues who I trust and respect dearly about the AP situation. I want to thank them for their unwavering support and valuable advice. It’s been a difficult time for all involved, myself included. After some personal reflection, I wanted to provide the poker community with a personal statement from me as opposed to my last two blog entries which merely posted AP’s official statements.

First, I want to make it clear that I view the allegations that have been brought forth against AP as serious, and if true, very troublesome. I hope the allegations against AP are not true. But, I am not naive nor will I whitewash or ignore any relevant facts or data that bear on the issues at hand.

I want to find out the truth. I want to know what, if anything, may have happened. Since, I first learned about the allegations, I have asked AP’s management to thoroughly investigate each and every claim of wrong-doing. They have assured me that will happen.

I am open to the possibility that improper, unethical and perhaps even unqualified cheating may have occurred at AP. I am even open to the possibility that present or former AP employees, or executives may have participated, condoned or were negligent in failing to discover the alleged improper acts.

But, and this is a big BUT, I feel it is imperative that we wait until all the evidence is in before we convict. It’s only fair. It’s the right thing to do. In my career as an attorney, I witnessed, first hand, many cases of a rush to judgment that ultimately proved to be entirely incorrect and/or mistaken.

Please don’t interpret this as defending AP or any person or persons that have may engaged in wrong-doing. I am neither defending nor indicting anyone. I just hope that we can all keep and open mind until all the evidence is in. I honestly believe the truth will come out in the end.

I also honestly believe that AP will do the right thing if improper conduct has, in fact, occurred. I have spoken to AP’s management and they have assured me that they want to get to the bottom of this, that they will go public with the findings and that if anyone has been harmed, they will be made whole. I believe them.

Finally, for those that have unnecessarily and unfairly accused me of wrong-doing, I want to go on record and state the following. I have never, ever, not one time, ever, been able to see any hole cards, other than my own, on any poker site I have ever played on nor have I ever had relayed to me in any manner whatsoever other players’ hole cards.

With respect to a session I played two years ago heads-up on AP in the 75/150 game, against “stuckinpgh” (I believe that is the name) that has been the subject of some discussion, I won fair and square. I am 99.99% certain that I did NOT fold, when first to act (not facing a bet) on the flop when my opponent claims he flopped a full house. That is complete nonsense and I welcome anyone to try to disprove that. I believe my opponent has recanted his story and I am happy that he was man enough to do that because that is the truth.

I don’t normally reply to or acknowledge such ridiculous claims, but in light of the current situation, I wanted to be unambiguously clear that I engaged in no wrong-doing whatsoever. I don’t know what else to say other than what I have already said about that incident or the AP situation at this time.

Call me naive, but I think AP and online poker industry as a whole will emerge even better than before as a result of the amazing, dedicated and tireless work of some very intelligent and vigilant players.

Thank you again to all those that have been so supportive. I truly appreciate it.

– Mark Seif

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Absolute Poker Management wishes to inform the poker community of the following information in response to the most recent claims posted over the past 48 hours on the 2+2 and Pocket Fives forums wherein again it is alleged that some person or persons breached Absolute Poker’s redundant and varying levels of game client security. As was stated in Absolute Poker’s Official Response released on Friday October 12, 2007, Absolute Poker conducted an extensive investigation in response to the claims it was made aware of and received. The results of that investigation indicated that to the best of Absolute Poker’s knowledge, information and belief there was no security breach. Specifically, Absolute Poker’s internal investigation determined that it is impossible for any person, device, program, script or other means to see hole cards.

Based on the most recent claims that Absolute Poker has been made aware of and at the request of some of our players and business partners, Absolute Poker has agreed to retain a widely acclaimed independent third party auditor, Gaming Associates, to conduct an independent audit of Absolute Poker’s security systems. Specifically, Absolute Poker has requested that Gaming Associates conduct a thorough and extensive review of Absolute Poker’s practices and security system’s to determine whether it is possible for any person, device, program, script or other means to see hole cards thereby gaining an unfair advantage.

Absolute Poker has agreed to fully cooperate with Gaming Associates and its investigative team and to provide the above with unfettered access to all systems, protocols and databases at Absolute Poker worldwide. Absolute Poker has also agreed to allow Gaming Associate’s final report to be made available to Pocket Fives and Bluff Media for their review.

With respect to the claims that Scott Tom, a former member of Team Absolute Poker, is in anyway involved in wrong-doing, Absolute Poker has requested a formal investigation into that matter as well. Mr. Tom has not been involved with Absolute Poker for over a year and to the best of our knowledge, information and belief has not had access to any of Absolute Poker’s systems, databases or information.

Absolute Poker reserves the right to pursue any and all remedies, including both legal and equitable which may inure to it as a result of any unlawful and/or injurious actions taken by any individuals who may have falsified any information, documents, files, or have by other means attempted to disparage and/or harm Absolute Poker, its players, management, employees, business partners or affiliates.

Absolute Poker shall bear all expenses related to such investigation and is eager to learn about Gaming Associate’s findings. Absolute Poker highly values and intends to protect its players, shareholders, business partners, and affiliates.

Absolute Poker Management

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Official Absolute Poker Response To Player Fraud Allegations

Absolute Poker takes all allegations of player fraud and collusion extremely seriously. Fair play and security are of paramount importance to us. Our Security and Fraud Department is dedicated to ensuring that everyone on the site has a fair opportunity to win, and that no improper methods, devices, programs and/or other unfair advantages are ever utilized in our games.

We were greatly concerned by a recent thread on the 2+2 forums along with emails and other communications we received, regarding alleged player fraud. We thank the vigilant players who reported this matter to us, giving us an opportunity to investigate these serious allegations. We spent extensive resources thoroughly investigating and analyzing our players’ claims. While our investigation is ongoing, we feel that we have enough information at this point to share with you some of our findings.

Please be advised, that we will continue to investigate each and every claim of wrong-doing on an individual basis and we will report any further significant findings that are appropriate for public review. Also, please keep in mind, while we endeavor to provide as much information as possible on a public level, we take our players’ privacy issues very seriously, and will never compromise this. As a matter of Company policy, Absolute Poker never divulges personal information about our players nor do we make public any hand information that did not go to a showdown, ever. As a result, we are limited in terms of the level of information that we can provide for public review.

In response to the allegations, we froze the accounts of the players in question while we performed an extensive investigation. The result of our investigation is that we found no evidence that any of Absolute Poker’s redundant and varying levels of game client security were compromised. In other words, we have determined with reasonable certainty that it is impossible for any player or employee to see hole cards as was alleged. There is no part of the technology that allows for a “superuser” account, and there is no way for any person to influence the game software to their advantage. We base this finding on a thorough security check on a technological level, coupled with a thorough investigation of hand histories including those that did not go to a showdown. As a part of our investigation, we also tested the integrity of our certified random number generator (“RNG”.) We determined that our RNG was not compromised either.

Details of the investigation

We combed through all hands involving the accounts that were mentioned in the online forums. Please note that only a select number of hands were featured in the threads. Our ongoing investigation continues to show that there were countless instances where a somewhat unorthodox poker strategy resulted in a loss. Allegations that the player accounts at issue “always guessed right” are unfounded.

We examined screen shots from Poker Tracker Software that displayed an “infinite” river aggression factor for one of the player accounts at issue. We examined similar screen shots which showed a lower but still relatively high river aggression factor. We were very concerned by this anomaly. Accordingly, we reviewed each and every hand that this player played during the relevant time period and determined that while the play was extremely aggressive, particularly on the river, there were several instances where the player merely called on the river. Thus, the allegation that the player accounts at issue “never called on the river, they either raised or folded” are also without merit.

With respect to the allegation of chip dumping, we have determined that chip dumping by at least one of the accounts at issue, did in fact, take place. We have determined that the chip dumping was made to several seemingly unrelated accounts. We are continuing to investigate this issue.

Conclusion

A ‘super-user’ account does not exist in our software. Absolute Poker was created by poker players who value security and fair play. The back-end of the Absolute Poker software prevents the possibility of any such feature. Our game client only receives data regarding an individual’s hand and no other player hole cards are ever visible – by anyone – except in the event of a showdown. Having said that, we will continue this investigation as well as look into any other allegations of wrong-doing. If appropriate, we will freeze funds and reimburse effected players.

Absolute Poker remains a 100% secure place to play. We value all of our players and we will continue to provide our community with a safe, secure and exciting online poker experience.

The Absolute Poker Management

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In my last blog entry, I stated that there were several changes to the 2007 WSOP that were the direct result of a players’ advisory committee. I stated further, that these changes while at first glance might appear player friendly, were not for the most part, when proverbially, all the chips finally fell. In my view, at least some if not most of these issues could have been resolved with greater input from the pro community and or that matter, the poker-playing public at large.

I think Jeffrey Pollack, the WSOP Commissioner, while probably meaning well, has gone about things the wrong way. Pollack has assembled a small committee comprised mostly of pros whom he has designated as the chosen ones for shaping the WSOP. On what basis this group was selected is not clear. I’m not sure they represent the majority of poker pros. They certainly do not represent the poker-playing public at large. Further, and most troubling, why do they meet in secret? And why do they make decisions that are final and not open to outside review? Why is there no voting process for the people that actually play in the WSOP to help shape and decide policy? After all, isn’t this the people’s game where anyone can pony up the buy-in and become the next Champ? What if rules or policies were instituted that resulted in an unfair advantage to a certain individual or group? Who is going to protect against that? These are questions that many players, including pros and non-pros, would like answered.

While poker is still growing by leaps and bounds, ESPN’s ratings are falling and the WSOP, as a brand, has become weaker and more commercial. Simply put, there has been tremendous dilution of the WSOP. I think the WSOP is heading down a wayward path that should be reversed before the WSOP becomes a lot less meaningful to a lot more people.

What’s the use of doubling the starting chips but increasing the starting blinds and taking out some levels? I don’t think this afforded us more play nor did it provide a better value. This was smoke and mirrors by and large and served no useful purpose that I can see.

Why were there 55 bracelet events with many starting on the same day? Is that reasonable when considering the already much too long days? I think there should be a hard and fast rule that players should never be required to be there for more than 12 hours in a single day, including all breaks. This can be done rather easily but would result in less events and ultimately less money for Harrah’s.

Speaking of less money for Harrah’s. Is an entry fee still reasonable in light of all the corporate sponsorship? Where does the corporate sponsorship money go? How much do you think Party Poker, Milwaukee’s Best Light, Planters Nuts, Corum watches, and several other companies paid to sponsor the WSOP? What about the revenue from ESPN for the broadcasting rights? You can bet it was in the tens of millions of dollars, cumulatively. To the best of my knowledge, not one red cent made its way into the prize pools, nor did it benefit players in any way. Simply put, Harrah’s received that money as pure profit, while shamelessly charging the players an entry fee and other fees to “allow” us to play in the WSOP.

Why were some of the media deemed official media of the WSOP and allowed to be there while many others were unable to cover the tournament? Because they were charged a license fee to be the exclusive provider – that’s why. I’m not talking about ESPN, it makes sense that they would pay to have the exclusive rights to broadcast the events but what about the forms of media? Does any other sport do that? I’m not sure, but I would guess probably not.

I’ll continue this rant in my next blog entry.

– Mark Seif

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The 2007 WSOP is over, finally. Congrats to Jerry Yang the new world champ. He seems like a very nice guy that will likely be an excellent ambassador for the game. I think most pros are glad its over – it’s been a grueling six weeks. I’m certainly glad its over. I had a very disappointing WSOP this year as did almost all the pros – again. Why is that?

Well, the obvious reason concerns the sheer number of participants. The pros are vastly outnumbered in all but a few events and because poker (particularly tournament poker) is chock full of luck, you are almost always in good shape by betting the field.

Although, Phil Hellmuth, Erik Seidel, Allen Cunningham (again), and Freddy Deeb managed to capture additional bracelets, by and large, the pros were under-represented in the bracelet department, again. But what about the double starting stacks and the fact that there were a remarkable 55 bracelet events?

Well, our “friends” at Harrah’s did give us more chips to play with but the blind structure was also altered to start higher and rise faster. The net result was close to a wash.

The fact that there were many days when there were two bracelet events starting a few hours apart turned out to be a poor decision in my view. I think that really taxed the pros physically and mentally, not to mention financially. The result was a bunch of very weary pros doing anything and everything they could to just win a bracelet and as stated above, very few succeeded.

With the super long hours, divided attention, humongous fields, and the “need to win a bracelet” pressure, even having 55 bracelet events was just not enough to help the pros.

Here’s the kicker though. Almost all of the changes above, were actually the doings of a “player advisory committee” assembled by Jeffrey Pollack, the WSOP commissioner. This committee is comprised of a handful of big name pros. You would think that would adequately represent the pros viewpoint right? Well, I think that turned out to be totally untrue. Many many pros that I spoke with were more disappointed, disenchanted, and disenfranchised by this year’s WSOP then ever before.

I’ll talk more about this in my next blog in a few days. Here’s a hint though, I don’t think Harrah’s, the players’ advisory committee, or ESPN for that matter, has acted in the best interests of the game or the players.

– Mark A. Seif

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As you know the 2007 WSOP is in full swing. I have played in about 8 events and have no final tables or cashes. I have had two amazing shots at my third bracelet though and came up empty both times. A few days ago in the $2,500 buy-in NLHE tourney I was very active during levels 3-6 and managed to amass 105k in chips while the average stack was 15k. That’s 7X the avg stack! Sick. But then the wheels came off the bus.

I was moved to a different table a little before the dinner break and managed to start chipping away at that table (I’m better known for playing big pots, but I was determined to play some controlled aggressive big stack poker while containing pot size) when a new person came to the table replacing a player that had busted. That player was Alex Outhred, a former fellow instructor at WPT BootCamp and current fellow instructor at WSOP Academy. Alex and I are the only two guys to teach both poker courses.

In short, Alex tortured me. I had legit hands every time we tangled but he always seemed to hold over me. It was ugly, he essentially took ALL of my chips. He had very few when he came to the table. But uncle Mark hooked him up. I went out about midnight a few places out of the money when we saw a flop of 4-5-7 while I was holding pocket sixes and he had pocket tens. We got all the chips in on the flop and it came blank blank. I was quite frustrated and I know Alex thinks I’m pissed at him. But, I’m not. He played and ran well while I did not. It happens.

The second disaster occured last night in the $2,000 buy-in NLHE tourney. I was off to my best start in two years when at the first break, I had 34,000 in chips while starting stack was 4,000 and average at the time must have been around 5,500 – over six times average is pretty strong. I got all my chips by flopping a set and busting a player, and making two flushes for huge pots before the first break. I was rolling and feeling it. Within 5 minutes after the first break I had 45,000 afer limping with pocket aces and flopping a set. My opponent moved in when I checked to him and I was crushing each table I went to. In total I was at 8 tables yesterday. Six of which were in the hot-as-hell tent (that will be another blog) but suffice to say a LOT of players are very unhappy with the terrible room temperature conditions.

I had not lost one pot until a late position player opened the pot and I looked down at A-J suited in the small blind. I decided to merely call because I sensed strength from this somewhat older gentleman. The flop came down K-10-rag with two of my suit. I checked, he bet half the pot and I called. The turn was a blank and we both checked. The river was a blank as well and I took a big stab at the pot, my opponent called and turned over pocket queens. That was three hours into the tournament!

Any how, I never really went up from there despite battling for another 7 hours. Simply put, there were several week players along with a couple of strong ones at the table I spent about 5 hours at and I had position on two of them. I was tracking them as much as possible. Perhaps too much. I entered virtually every pot they entered whether it was raised or not. I knew my stack would slowly decline until I was able to snap one of them off. That snap never happened. My big chance came in a three way pot when the player to my immediate right that had nearly as many chips as I had, raised 3X big blind under the gun. I looked down at A-7 of clubs and called the raise. Another late position player, I wanted to play some pots with, also called the raise.

The flop came down A-10-8 with two clubs! Tons of potential but I still had some concerns if I didn’t improve. The original raiser bet, I smooth called because I didn’t want to give any idication of strength until I improved. The late position guy moved all in for about a pot sized raise. The original raiser called and I called. The turn was an ace. The original raiser checked. I bet half the pot and he called. The river was a non-club nine. I bet two-thirds of the pot into the side pot and the original raiser folded. The late position guy turned over A-10 and he got the huge main pot while I picked up the side.

I pretty much never won a significant pot after that. Instead, I got into some trouble with big draws that missed. I didn’t cash again but I’m okay with it. I know my ulra-loose super-aggressive style has huge benefits in terms accumulation but very high volatility. That’s the way it is when you go for the bracelet.

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I know. It’s been a long time since I have blogged. In fact, it has been over two months. I apologize, but my hands were tied It seemed inappropriate to comment publicly on a very sensitive ongoing issue until it was resolved one way or the other.

The reason I have been MIA, in case some of you don’t know, relates to a decision made by Absolute Poker to terminate the company’s relationships with all of the professional poker players who endorse the site. In fact, subsequent to AP’s acquisition of UltimateBet, the management became the same for both sites and the UB pro’s including Phil Hellmuth, Jr., Annie Duke, and Antonio Esfandiari were similarly effected.

This was absolutely shocking to us (no pun intended) but I learned the reason for it and it made sense. It seems, that while very good things are happening regarding the legal landscape of online poker in terms of efforts made by Congressman Barney Frank and former Senator Alfonse D’ Amato who now chairs the PPA, our government, in some areas, is still trying to take away our right to play poker both online and in brick and mortar card rooms across America.

AP’s management, through its numerous attorneys on retainer, was made aware of certain state bills which are making their way through the respective state legislative processes to become laws, which went so far as to imply that merely endorsing a real money poker site might be illegal. AP, the company and its sister company UB, took the prophylactic steps of releasing the pro endorsers in an attempt to comply with those prospective state laws. These measures were not what the companies wanted to do and it pained them greatly to take those drastic steps. Unfortunately, they felt there was no other choice.

Discussions between the companies and the pro players continued though, and just recently terms were reached between AP/UB and Phil Hellmuth, Jr., Annie Duke, a few others and myself to endorse the non-real money gaming sites (the dot nets) and to endorse the real money sites internationally only. While, this solution was better than the previous, it is still far from ideal. In fact, it saddens me deeply that people who did outstanding jobs and who were valuable assets to the companies they worked with were adversely effected by the current legal environment regarding gaming and poker specifically.

It’s about time we all said, “it’s gone too far, we ‘re as mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore!” Please communicate your displeasure with the uncertainty regarding the laws effecting poker today to you local congressmen. Call or write them and tell them how you feel about your right to play America’s game, Poker.

I will be blogging a lot more about this issue and other stuff now. Again, I apologize for the absence and will try to make up for it.

– Mark Seif

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The past few weeks have been….eventful, to say the least. In the aftermath of the Leyser v. Gold case, I found mself playing catch up with the rest of my life which was on hold for a few months. Just when it seemded like thngs were returning to normal, new developments in the online poker industry and the myriad of issues relating to it surfaced and I was again contacted to represent certain groups and individuals. I have not yet agreed to take on any more legal work, but I may do so. I don’t know.

I pretty much retired from the practice of law six years ago to play poker professionally and full-time. Between playing the pro tour and the various other poker-related projects I committed to, not to mention starting a new family, I have not had a lot of free time.

Sometimes though, you just got to do things. You don’t really have a choice. Poker, specifically online poker, needs our collective effort more than ever. Senator D’Amato chairing the PPA is huge! Let’s keep the momentum going. I willl be doing all that I can – maybe even taking on another case but right now I have to go to the airport to fly down to LA to emcee a charity tourney at Commerce Casino for the families of fallen LA Sheriff’s deputies.

– Mark Seif

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